In 2015 we identified that AMD was in the marketplace to work with a new lead item manager for a workstation department. This was an unconditionally different position to the lead PM for high-end desktop, and so we speculated what this actually suggests. Today, AMD is revealing its very first set of workstation items, under the Ryzen Threadripper Pro branding. However, it must be kept in mind that these processors will just be offered as part of pre-built systems, and no corresponding customer motherboards will be made available.
Taking Threadripper To Pro
The product stack from AMD has consisted of Ryzen Pro and Ryzen Mobile Pro hardware for a couple of generations– these processors offer ECC-enabled variants in addition to corporate support on security, manageability, and operating system image consistency. Most of us had presumed that while Ryzen had a Ryzen Pro variant, the most natural version to Threadripper was AMDs EPYC processor line of server processors. The server market and the high-end-desktop/workstation market have constantly sort of overlapped, and approximately this point if a user had an interest in a workstation-like style, with ECC and software application validation, they would look to EPYC.
Today AMD is altering that dynamic with Ryzen Threadripper Pro
AMD Ryzen Threadripper Pro.
Ryzen Threadripper Pro hardware will mirror single-socket EPYC in its features: eight memory channels as much as DDR4-3200, 128 lanes of PCIe 4.0, assistance for LRDIMMs and rdimms, support for safe and secure memory file encryption, assistance for DASH manageability, and running system image consistency as part of AMDs Pro Business Ready programme.
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Cores
BaseFreq
TurboFreq
Chiplets
TDP
DRAM
Where Ryzen Threadripper Pro varies remains in the core count/frequency/TDP configurations.
3995WX
64/ 128
2700
4200
8 + 1
280 W.
8 x DDR4-3200.
3975WX.
32/ 64.
3500.
4200.
4 + 1.
280 W.
8 x DDR4-3200.
3955WX.
16/ 32.
3900.
4300.
2 + 1.
280 W.
8 x DDR4-3200.
3945WX.
12/ 24.
4000.
4300.
2 + 1.
280 W.
8 x DDR4-3200.
Today, AMD is announcing its very first set of workstation items, under the Ryzen Threadripper Pro branding. The product stack from AMD has included Ryzen Pro and Ryzen Mobile Pro hardware for a couple of generations– these processors offer ECC-enabled variants along with business assistance on security, manageability, and operating system image consistency. Many of us had assumed that while Ryzen had a Ryzen Pro variation, the most natural version to Threadripper was AMDs EPYC processor line of server processors. We asked AMD about this, provided that Ryzen Threadripper Pro is being positioned against Intels Xeon W-3200 and Xeon W-2200 series of processors. AMD is launching its brand-new Ryzen Threadripper Pro item line with its launch partner Lenovo, as part of the brand-new ThinkStation P620 series.
The something missing out on is that AMD will not release main MSRPs for its new processors. Since these are OEM only, the company mentions, they will not release any prices. This makes efficiency per dollar comparisons really challenging to manage.
AMD isnt sampling these processors to the press for review, rather specifying that we need to ask Lenovo for P620 sampling. Were looking into it.
The ThinkStation P620 will be available to customers from late September.
Naturally AMD thinks they are onto a winner, and much like the 64-core Threadripper 3990X was pitted versus dual Xeon 8280 processors, AMD has actually done the exact same with the 3995WX:.
AMDs primary competitors here is going to be Intels own workstation line of processors. If you have not been following what Intel is doing, not to fret– its somewhat of a confusing mess. Let us take it in stages:.
There is likewise a small distinction in DRAM support– TR Pro supports approximately 2 TB, however EPYC supports 4 TB. All of the Ryzen Threadripper Pro processors are single socket just.
Competitors.
AMDs argument here is that TR Pro will take on all of Intels Xeon W offerings. Where Intel has 80+ different choices throughout a variety of sockets, AMD will have just four that will cover the majority of the market, and Ryzen Pro for the low-end.
Among the interesting components of TR Pro is that it is set to be an OEM only item. This suggests that interested celebrations will have to talk to Lenovo or others in order to get the hardware. As it stands, Lenovo is set to be the launch partner for the TR Pro household, where it will be provided as part of its ThinkStation P620 family. Lenovo will use its P620 in all different flavors, with as much as 1 TB of DRAM and dual RTX 8000 GPUs (or 4 RTX 4000 GPUs).
Lenovos P620 use the socket in a rotated orientation to help with airflow, but this also limits the socket to just one DIMM per channel, thus why we have the 1 TB max memory assistance. The system will use a great deal of Lenovos ThinkStation innovations, such as removable fans and drives and such.
You might remember a short article I released early this year in January, mentioning that TRX80, WRX80, and Intel LGA1159 doesnt exist. In that post I spoke to the traditional customer motherboard producers, as well as one OEM, none of whom had TRX80 or WRX80 on their roadmaps, and with AMD partnering specifically with Lenovo for this item line, we can see why– the traditional consumer/HEDT motherboard manufacturers werent part of that partnership.
AMD is releasing its brand-new Ryzen Threadripper Pro item line with its launch partner Lenovo, as part of the new ThinkStation P620 series. The P620 will be available from late September. These brand-new processors will only be offered as part of OEM pre-built systems, but will provide better core/frequency mixes than AMDs EPYC processor line in a single-socket just variant.
OEM Only.
We asked AMD about this, given that Ryzen Threadripper Pro is being placed versus Intels Xeon W-3200 and Xeon W-2200 series of processors. For anyone interested in TR Pro coming to the routine on-shelf market, let AMD know.
At this time none of the other OEM workstation suppliers have discussed their offerings, nevertheless by the end of the year I can think of a few other offerings in the market targeted at different verticals.
Before Intel introduced Xeon Scalable, it offered versions of its E5-2600 processor line as workstation models, such as the E5-2687W v2/v3/v4. These were socket suitable with Intels high-end desktop processors without ECC, or might be used in server-grade motherboards with ECC validation.
After this, Intel launched the Xeon W-2100 family, built upon Skylake, and providing to 18 cores with quad-channel memory. These were on the LGA2066 high-end desktop socket, but required special motherboards that used server-only chipsets. These were upgraded with Xeon W-2200 variations, built on Cascade Lake.
Together with this, Intel had Xeon W-3100 and Xeon W-3200 workstation processors, for the LGA3647 socket, making it possible for six-channel memory and using up to 28 cores. Intel even used a special W-3175X model that was overclockable.
Now this year, Intel added the Xeon W-1200 household to its workstation lineup, using the consumer LGA1200 socket, but once again with motherboards that have a server-only chipset installed. These W-1200 actually replace the E-2300 processors, and the Xeon E family has been mothballed into Xeon W.
On top of all this, Intel has Xeon Scalable Cascade Lake which have also been used thoroughly in workstations.
The top processor, the 3995WX, will use all 64-cores. It exceeds and beyond the conventional top EPYC 7742 (225 W, 2.25 GHz/ 3.4 GHz) and even the 7H12 (280 W, 2.6 GHz/ 3.3 GHz), by using more base frequency at 2.7 GHz and a much higher turbo frequency at 4.2 GHz for 280W TDP. These processors may be taking benefit of the exact same manufacturing update as offered by the recent Ryzen 3000XT processors in order to drive these greater frequencies.
Summary.
AMD says that its core count and frequency setups are created to fit a range of different licensing designs, for software that has licenses per core (where the high frequency designs are suggested) or per socket (where more cores are advised)..
The target with something like the P620, similar to the target of EPYC, is to replace both high-end single socket setups but likewise to replace dual socket workstation setups as well. Lenovo is set to place the P620 TR Pro variation to cover both its P520 single socket and P720 dual socket products.
