HW News – AMD Zen 3 & RDNA2, RTX 3080 Binning, Liquid-Cooled Silicon, & Xbox Series X & S Specs – GamersNexus

01:32|Der8auers Nano-Structures Imaging

Fellow YouTuber Der8auer published a three-part series that we wanted to bring some attention to. Romans series uses a scanning electron microscope to picture the AMD Ryzen silicon nano-structures at more than 100,000 magnification. Roman and the on-site engineer go through the images in great information and speak about the structures consisting of the CPU: Among other elements of the silicon, Roman shows just how small the composition of the silicon is, and focuses on parts of evictions and interconnects within the CPU.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYF7Qym9Pq0

Its a really educational series and is well-produced. We d advise checking out Der8auer on YouTube to have a look at the series, readily available in English und auf Deutsch.

03:04|Scientists Exploring Embedded Liquid Cooling.

Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2666-1.

New research being done in Switzerland seems to reveal some promising advances in liquid cooling. Primarily in bringing liquid cooling straight to the chip itself, through cooling channels straight on top of the chip package. To demonstrate this on a semiconductor, researchers utilized gallium nitride (GaN) atop a silicon wafer to build a basic power conversion chip.

To construct the ingrained cooling system, slits are cut through the GaN, reaching down to the silicon beneath. These slits are engraved at the silicon level to widen them into channels.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/09/researchers-demonstrate-in-chip-water-cooling/.

The researchers then packaged this cooling system by utilizing a double-sided adhesive with laser-cut channels to accommodate the chips cooling, and the whole bundle was affixed to a PCB with connections for both power and water supply. Overall, the researchers noted that the style is able to manage heat loads up to 1,700 W per square centimeter, while keeping the chip temperature from increasing beyond 60 ° C. While adapting this system to modern-day processors and silicon would be far more complex, its appealing research nonetheless..

Even for all of its contemporary RGB LEDs, theres still a specific amount of intrinsic inadequacy in liquid cooling a chip or element– namely in transferring the heat load into the cold plate, and consequently getting it into the liquid itself.

05:14|AMD: Big Navi and Zen 3 in October.

Radeon RX 6000 Series: https://twitter.com/Radeon/status/1303726639013036033.

Obviously, well have to wait and see just exactly how AMD is going to position its brand-new GPUs, however theres a lot of precedent for last minute rate cuts in between AMD and Nvidia. AMD pulled a comparable stunt with its RX 5000 series as a countermeasure to deflate and try Nvidias RTX Super series. Nvidia would end up dropping the rate of its RTX 2060 in response to AMDs aggressive rates in the section.

AMD lastly made it clear when we d be able to see Zen 3 and RDNA 2 (Big Navi) parts by announcing a future statement– such is the current pattern. NVIDIA did it for 21 days straight leading into RTX and ASUS did it after that, and now its AMDs turn to pre-announce a statement, with the RDNA2 statement landing suspiciously one day after its earnings call.

Source: https://hothardware.com/news/amd-big-navi-radeon-6000-16gb-priced-undercut-rtx-3080.

Zen 3/Ryzen 4000: https://twitter.com/AMDRyzen/status/1303732899506774022.

If this gets announced initially and is available later, AMD would require to hit the Black Friday purchasing window to maximize effect– however its likewise splitting silicon for consoles and CPUs, considering that so much of what AMD is presently making is on the same wafer supply. AMD will have to figure out how to split the limited supply between its products: Consoles will have purchase orders that probably cant be changed on-the-fly, particularly with anticipated high volume, but will supply some money circulation; CPUs, if using shared wafer supply, could possibly be greater margin per part of wafer, which will be a tough balance if inventory is in demand on Ryzen CPUs.

Formerly, there was likewise an easter egg in Fortnite recommending the brand-new GPUs would be called the RX 6000 series. The easter egg is method cooler as a pre-announcement tease, and is product teasers done right, we think..

10:35|Xbox Series X & & S Pricing, Promising AMD SOCs.

Unsurprisingly, the most significant modifications can be found in the kind of a pared-down GPU, less GDDR6 memory, and less solid state storage. The Series S uses a 7nm, 8C Zen 2 SoC, but is offset with a somewhat lower CPU clock speed of 3.6 GHz. Meanwhile, the GPU performs at 1.56 GHz throughout 20 CUs. Thats compared to the 52 CUs clocked at 1.82 GHz for the Series X.

The Xbox Series S is targeting 4 TFLOPs of compute, compared to the 12.15 TFLOPs rating for the Xbox Series X. This is largely an useless number, but its one that both Microsoft and Sony firmly insist on pressing, so here we are. The Xbox Series S will be mainly targeted at 1440p/120FPS video gaming, and seems placed as a successor to the Xbox One S.

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/09/09/xbox-series-x-and-xbox-series-s-launching-november-10/.

Additionally, the Series S will come equipped with 10GB of GDDR6, allocated as 8GB @ 224 GB/s, and 2GB at 56GB/s. For storage, theres a 512GB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD, and Microsofts proprietary 1TB expansion card slot.

AMDs console GPUs look really promising this actuallyAppealing too, and were excited to test thrilled new evaluate and see how they do. Keep in mind that, with console GPUs, theres constantly a major fundamental advantage in that developers just have one (or 2) standard sets of hardware to construct for.

After a leakage that claimed a $299 cost tag for the then-unconfirmed Xbox Series S, Microsoft came out and validated both the console and the cost. Microsoft likewise revealed that the Xbox Series X will be priced at $499, and that both consoles will be readily available on November 10th. Alongside the new consoles, Microsoft is rolling-out a revamped Game Pass Ultimate subscription that includes an EA Play membership at no extra expense, in addition to financing alternatives for purchasing the new consoles.

According to the report, Sony is now likely looking to match prices with Microsoft in reaction to the prices of the Xbox Series X and Series S.

Surprisingly, there are implications with Xcloud here: The 20 CU vs. 52 CU setups should be extensively differed in abilities, however if Microsoft intends to successfully deliver a massively more powerful Chromecast-style gadget, it might connect into Xcloud for the more requiring video games. Thats doubly real when considering the brand-new push on video game pass memberships.

Source: https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/09/09/introducing-xbox-series-s/.

15:21|Western Digitals “5400 RPM-Class” Designation.

” For select items, Western Digital has published RPM speed within a class or efficiency class for many years rather than releasing particular spindle speeds. We also fine-tune select hard drive platforms and the associated HDD characteristics to develop numerous different variations of such platforms to satisfy different market or application needs.

There have likewise been reports of affected drives getting grievances relating to noise and temperature level, which likely originates from the drives not actually being 5400 RPM drives. A primary reason some users and applications choose 5400 RPM drives is lower sound and operating temperatures..

It appears Western Digital is keen on bring in yet more ire from consumers. This time, it appears Western Digital is muddying the water on spindle speeds, as it relates to its WD Red line of NAS HDDs.

Again, this problem isnt entirely new; another reddit user, u/Amaroko, previously posted his findings with the WD Elements WD80EMAZ and WD My Book WD80EZAZ models. Not just are HDDs being promoted as 5400 RPMs models, but the firmware also reports a spindle speed of 5400 RPMs. User findings are contradicting that..

When somebody on a German online forum informed me that they were in fact 7200 rpm, I didnt think them at initially either. You see, 7200 rpm is equal to 120 rotations per second, which must manifest as a base frequency of 120 Hz. 5400 rpm on the other hand corresponds to 90 Hz.

Amoroko concerned this conclusion after a fast frequency analysis on the hard disks, whereby the HDDs were positioned on a cardboard box with a Yeti mic positioned above them, and recording the drives being powered on. Spectral views were then recorded with Adobe Audition, which showed a baseline frequency of 120Hz.

Ars Technica connected to Western Digital, and got the following declaration:.

The core of the problem is Wesern Digital recognizing specific WD Red HDDs as “5400 RPM-class” regardless of proof that the drives actually spin at 7200 RPMs. In addition, the 5400 RPM-class designation doesnt seem to be restricted to just WD Reds, however likewise particular designs from the My Elements and My Book lines.

Source: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/09/western-digital-is-trying-to-redefine-the-word-rpm/.

18:46|RTX 3090/3080 Waterblocks Surface.

When Nvidia flaunted its brand-new RTX 3000-series cards, they boasted a brand-new flow-through cooling design from Nvidia aimed at getting more air through the card, and consequently more hot air out of it. In facilitating this, the FE cards use a truncated customized PCB. Nvidia has a more conventional referral style that will go out to AIB partners, and business like EKWB are already working on water obstructs based on this design.

It appears Bykski has currently produced water obstructs that are suitable with the PCB discovered in the FE cards, specifically that of the RTX 3090 and RTX 3080. The blocks are listed over at ezmodding, and come in different surfaces (acrylic, acetal, and so on) and are stated to be full protection water obstructs– suggesting the blocks should provide protection for not only the GPU, however likewise the VRAM and VRM..

Source: https://ezmodding.com/index.php?k=199&lang=eng.

These blocks appear to be readily available for preorder, and ezmodding likewise has placeholders for upcoming AIB models also..

21:26|Cryorig Returns With R5 CPU Cooler and Crona RGB Fans.

Weve been discussing the potential return of Cryorig to the US market for some time. Most just recently, the business teased an upcoming item with the word “5OON.” And while we had some laughs at the marketing, what Cyrorig was in fact teasing was the now official Cryorig R5 CPU cooler, which will act as the current entry in Cryorigs R-series of coolers.

The R5 cooler is a CPU tower cooler with double fans, and has some interesting functions and claims, such as a “quick-mount” mounting system that supposedly permits for one-handed setup. The R5 uses 6 heat pipelines, and comes with a TDP score of 200W. Cyrorig hasnt discussed lots of technical information on how the mounting system works. Cyrorig is listing a front fin density of 48, and front fin measurements of T = 0.4 mm, gap = 2 mm.

Cyrorig also revealed its new Crona RGB fans. Thats Crona, not to be puzzled with a certain demonetizing human malware epidemic that may or might not have a similar enunciation. At any rate, the Crona RGB fans are 120mm fans that feature a circular RGB LED design and use Cryorigs HPLN (High Precision Low Noise) bearing design.

Rate and availability are TBA..

Source: http://www.cryorig.com/news.php?id=90&page=1.

23:39|RTX 3090/3080 Binning.

A brand-new report from Igors Lab suggests that the quality of the upcoming RTX 3000 chips might be a bit spread. If it wasnt already clear, Igor has a clear pulse on the GPU market and market, as he recently nailed the RTX 3000 launch. So, this details is likely highly trustworthy.

Additionally, the Series S will come equipped with 10GB of GDDR6, apportioned as 8GB @ 224 GB/s, and 2GB at 56GB/s. The Xbox Series S is targeting 4 TFLOPs of calculate, compared to the 12.15 TFLOPs rating for the Xbox Series X. According to the report, Sony is now most likely looking to match prices with Microsoft in action to the pricing of the Xbox Series X and Series S.

While Igors sources declare that they havent gotten nearly as lots of chips for RTX 3090 designs, its reported that the total bins will likely look similar. This information suggests that total, Samsungs customized 8nm process for Nvidia is very healthy, as most users stand a likelihood at getting a bin 1 chip. Igor is mentioning concealed sources at vendors and board partners for these numbers, however once again, Igors track record is excellent.

Entering specifics, both the upcoming RTX 3090 and 3080 will utilize the GA102 pass away, which itself is based upon a custom-made adjustment of Samsungs 8nm procedure, called 8N Nvidia. Despite node maturity, the GA102 is large and complicated, and as ever, it will take some time to great tune the production to draw out the finest chips..

That said, Igors Lab is reporting some binning statistics for some preliminary production of the GA102-based chips for the RTX 3080. Arranged into bin 0 (average), bin 1 (excellent), and bin 2 (really excellent), the early chips appear to alter towards bin 1, reportedly representing a 60% average of chips. Another 30% comprise bin 0, and 10% of the GA102 chips are bin 2..

Source: https://www.igorslab.de/en/chip-is-not-equal-to-chip-first-information-on-the-possibility-to-binning-and-dispersal-at-the-force-rtx-3080-andrtx-3090/.

AMDs console GPUs look really promising this actuallyAppealing too, and were excited to test thrilled new evaluate and see how they do.

Romans series utilizes a scanning electron microscopic lense to envision the AMD Ryzen silicon nano-structures at more than 100,000 magnification. AMD pulled a comparable stunt with its RX 5000 series as a countermeasure to deflate and attempt Nvidias RTX Super series. Thats compared to the 52 CUs clocked at 1.82 GHz for the Series X.

Editorial: Eric HamiltonHost, Additional Reporting: Steve BurkeVideo: Keegan Gallick.